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Detriment applies to the placement of a planet in the opposite Sign from that of which it is said to be the Ruler; Moon Cancer.
to me we have the best of both worlds; we're not whinny cry babies or ebbing or flowing with every whim
Moon in Capricorn
(here’s the other end of the spectrum)
Moon in Capricorn Key word is Management. The chief characteristics are lack of sympathy, innate selfishness and self-preoccupation. The natives have an earthy practicality, giving dependence and a sense of responsibility towards those around them. These people could be loyal and unswerving when eventually give their heart to someone else, and would stick around when others have given up. They have dignity and tenacity and a realistic vision of the world as it really is, not as others expect it to be. Sun-in-Virgo-Moon-in-Capricorn is said to be the most practical of all Soli-Lunar combinations.
The natives display reverence and concentration of mind. The mind of the native is generally very keen, acute, active, far-seeing, and given to plotting and scheming. With a rapid mental response, they are all-comprehensive and somewhat antagonistic. The Moon here bestows something formidable, a hint of arrogance, air of dignity, a lust for power and recognition and a craving for financial power.
The Native does not encourage others taking liberties with, or seeking to approach him/her on too intimate terms. The Moon in Capricorn is said to be better for a man while women with this placement can turn off most men. The Moon in Capricorn favors positions of executive, administrative, public and organizational positions and commercial pursuits.
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Re: In Detriment
Sun, September 11, 2005 - 8:45 PM"Sun-in-Virgo-Moon-in-Capricorn is said to be the most practical of all Soli-Lunar combinations."
Earth in a the moon's placement (water) feels more like mud to me right now. I feel mired. I don't feel very practical at all presently though I am the above combination. That may speak to another post about Cap moons (exacerbated by a Virgo sun) seeing their weaknesses and not viewing themselves as others see them.
I perhaps set too high of standards and get lost in the details of how to begin executing something that is so far away and intimidatingly ambitious or large while berating myself for not getting to my goal more quickly.
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Sun, September 11, 2005 - 9:23 PM>>The Moon in Capricorn is said to be better for a man while women with this placement can turn off most men. <<
Ack. This kind of astro quip has rubbed me the wrong way for years. I don't need a self-fulfilling prophecy. I need advice on what I can do to be more comfortable and enjoy flirting....when I'm flirting with men, that is... ;-) -
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Sun, September 11, 2005 - 10:37 PM>>The Moon in Capricorn is said to be better for a man while women with this placement can turn off most men. <<
I think the above statement should be amended to EASIER for a man than a woman just because as much as I'd like to say equality exists, many men still don't like having a woman take charge the way many women will accept a man taking charge.
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Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:27 PMwho the heck wants a wimpy man? :P Wendy likes men with no spine? ;)
The thing is, I meet alot of women who are the take charge type. They have trouble finding men cause they run over them. So when they first meet a guy they like, it's very often a guy who are more powerfull "take charge"-whise :-)
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Mon, December 26, 2005 - 10:28 PMYeah... actually I don't think I will ever enjoy flirting. It's rediculous. I prefer a straight forward approach/physical love or just intellectual communication.
I'm wondering what this board is all about... just stumbled onto it after a google search for "capricorn moon" and I just so happen to live in the Twin Cities. Hmm. -
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Tue, December 27, 2005 - 3:26 AMnevermind what I said above about the Twin Cities : p
Well Sarah (Hello!)... I have to admit I find it difficult to deal with emotional experiences - my own and others.
I've also found there is a lot of varying *opinion* floating around about the Cap. moon. & contradictive. Either this or the writer is afraid to hurt cappy. Lol.
Admittedly I am not emotionally stable and I cannot stand to deal with my emotions so I try to keep them under control.
Apparently A Saturnine moon is the least desirable of possible moon placements. True, we are sensitive and even so plot emotional barriers/can be a bit insensitive and I really think it's in subconcious efforts to keep people at a distance. A fear of being known. A fear of loss. Inadequacy... Indeed, feelings of insecurity run prevalent in a Cap. Moon natives nature.
Capricorn truely harbors a great need to care & be cared for but is not very well able to express it... and generally the Cap moon native remains "lonely" to some degree for his/her whole life.
However, if cappy lets you in and does his/her best to show love it means *so much*.
The best interpretation of what the Capricorn moon nature is about was something to the effect of Cap being emotionally fulfilled by financial and social preoccupations. And yet, I believe these both to be not a completely fulfilling way of expression.. for one because we are human... and this sort of life is very cold. Also... I've read (and experienced!) Cap. moon is likely to deal with adversities in the workplace or other social latters due to cappys desire to achieve and be gratified thru work... therefore he/she puts much of the soul into achieving through the career and whether or not cap is in a position of high status others will feel threatened and insecure of thier own work and position & will tend to spread rumours or be opposed to Cap in some way.
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Tue, December 27, 2005 - 4:21 AMDarkneez,
Being a Scorpio Moon (Fall), I also find it difficult to deal with the whole emotional experience myself, I can totally relate to that.
What you said lower about Cap Moons describes some I know, maybe the fact that my Sun and Venus are in my second house could also be one reason I get allong with them so well, ''being emotionally fulfilled by financial and social preoccupations'', Yeah, thats me all right!!!
Sarahxx
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Re: In Detriment
Tue, December 27, 2005 - 1:07 AMMy Moon is not in Capricorn, but I'm dating someone with a Cap Moon, and I've had a few friends with this Moon sign as well, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't find them to have a lack of sympathy, actually I find the as emotionnal as other signs, I just get the feeling as though their emotions run deeper than most, but once they let you in, they make good, steady, reliable, devoted friends. They are also hyper sensitive in my opinion, a little needy too, they're easily hurt and sometimes have self esteem issues.
I think Capricorn is one of the least well understood/explained signs of the horoscope, cold is the last word I'd use to describe them, reserved would perhaps be better.
Like I said above, please correct me if I'm wrong, y'all know more about his than I do....
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Sat, December 31, 2005 - 1:51 AMsorry 'bout the double post... and i wish i could delete on and edit the other as I have been avidly reading about the scorpio moon and have found a this is the moon which is deemed the "least desirable" of placements.
I guess i'm probably not very *in touch* with my emotions so i find them not so easy to deal with when they hit.
Anyone else feel as if their emotional world is nearly void? It's more or less a security/lackthereof issue. ? Well this is how I see it. & I tend to actually analyse my emotional state of being via writing. hah. helps to keep it "under control" -
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Sat, December 31, 2005 - 1:59 AMOH man.. i've totally flooded the place
My apologies!! = o
Sarah, how do you find the Scorpio/Cap. moon relationship to be in terms of mutual satisfaction?
I've got my eye on a Scorp. moon... however... his moon is conjunct Mars and Saturn!! I've already experienced some of the turbulence this placement may cause and I may never see him again 'cause he freaked out & withdrew a while back. : ( -
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Sat, December 31, 2005 - 7:58 AM
[“They are also hyper sensitive in my opinion, a little needy too, they're easily hurt and sometimes have self esteem issues.” ]
As a generalization there might be some truth to this but, for the most part I would disagree at least for me (although my moon is within a GrandCross) and other Cap moons I’ve known, I think also the aspects to thier moon and others as well will have to be factored in. I think on bad days meloncholy comes to mind.
I’m not sure what others might think of being cold is but I can cut anyone off emotionally, it’s like they don’t even exist (not sure how much this has to do with me having a Scropio rising) also we’re heared of the Poker face?
Well with Capricorn it might be called the “Poker face of emotions” with no exchange of feeling no would know (except perhaps the water moon signs) there’s and exchange of energy in emotions that I can cut off (others might call this cold, unfeeling, hard) but it’s more than that, it’s a cruelty most will find very uncomfortable.
It’s like people don’t exist or I could care less, it’s like the person is not even human anymore. Like Scropio moons you can feel their intensity, in Cap moon you can feel their abandement.
Some of the extreme Cap moons Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Napoleon -
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Re: In Detriment
Sat, December 31, 2005 - 10:24 PMChaz,
What I wrote was what I've experienced with Cap Moons, there maybe have been other elements in their charts that have influenced this, my own daughter was a Cap Moon. I appreciate you opinion on this matter, having your own Moon in this sign.
Being the Scorpio Moon I am I also have a tendency to cut off people pretty drastically, my feelings are all or nothing, sometimes, I get pretty cold myself, I suddenly loose complete feeling or interest for someone, but then again, my Scorp Moon is conjunct Uranus, that could be why.
Dakneez, about my experience with dating a Cap Moon, I can say that they make me feel safe, I always try too find the way into their hearts, and once I do, they definetly secure my deeply insecure Scorp Moon feelings, I also enjoy their drive to succeed.
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Tue, January 3, 2006 - 6:03 PM"also have a tendency to cut off people pretty drastically, my feelings are all or nothing, sometimes, I get pretty cold myself, I suddenly loose complete feeling or interest for someone"
I find this interesting. Whether it's Cap moon or a Scorpio moon thing I wouldn't be able to say without knowing more Scorpio moon people. My moon is in the 8th house and what you said applies to me as well. I know several Capricorn moon people, none of which I would characterize as unemotional. In fact they're downright moody, cranky and pissy seeming to be the emotional state they're most willing to express openly, but still openly express their full range of emotions.
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Re: In Detriment
Thu, November 13, 2008 - 4:25 PMYes I agree! I am a Cap moon...I think it's silly to say we don't "feel" as much as other signs...what it is is that we don't feel as comfortable "expressing those feeling" - because we take our emotions so seriously. I think Capricorn represent qualities like: responsibility, strength, steadfastness, seriousness....so when that is in the MOON sign than you can apply those notions to how we interpret or respond to emotions (the Moon) - we feel very responsible about emotions...we know how important they are, so we don't take the lightly, or frivolously - we aren't apt to express them easily because we know that we are dealing with serious stuff, and it's not to be just thrown about. I think some of us hit a block because we might feel overwhelmed with the weightiness of everything...and we don't want to make a wrong move, or a mistake, so we hold it back, or hold it all in. And let me tell you, it's a TREMENDOUS weight to carry. Huge. :-)
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Re: In Detriment
Sat, March 1, 2008 - 3:19 AM"In Detriment"
Do they fall in love?
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 10:47 AMi can cut people off easily which i dont like about myself. I especially do it when i feel i am getting close to people i will get close and then push away anybody else do this? i also feel very needy of people at other times. im trying to get to gribs with my cappie moon and want to bring out its postive qaulities.
